tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2650609952674727820.post1706973235392196159..comments2024-03-27T15:55:32.875+01:00Comments on W-wa Jeziorki: Of sausage and drainsMichael Dembinskihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05657728002439035765noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2650609952674727820.post-46942002884027390372010-10-24T22:53:16.882+02:002010-10-24T22:53:16.882+02:00I got a similarly worded missive from the local co...I got a similarly worded missive from the local council when I applied for permission to have a spruce tree cut down in my garden. Permission to cut down the tree stalled when it turned out that I was not able to obtain consent from my dad, deceased of 6 years. When that roadblock was cleared and the permission finally came through, it was couched as an order, with a deadline and sanctions for failure to comply included. I didn't mention in the application that I had stolen the sapling of that tree some 30 years ago from a state-owned forest when on an outing from school doing community work.Jacek Kobahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00602096438710949362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2650609952674727820.post-3814155709723212142010-10-22T23:10:38.599+02:002010-10-22T23:10:38.599+02:00Hey Neighbour! Thank you SO much! I shall take som...Hey Neighbour! Thank you SO much! I shall take some time off work next week to pop into the Urząd Dzielnicy Ursynów to take a peek at the plans.<br /><br />Thanks for the heads-up, much appreciated!Michael Dembinskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05657728002439035765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2650609952674727820.post-42140536323907827902010-10-22T22:10:54.992+02:002010-10-22T22:10:54.992+02:00Michael,
Have a look on the sewage design, maybe ...Michael,<br /><br />Have a look on the sewage design, maybe show to someone with engineering experience.<br /><br />Agree with neighbours, that you ALL have ONE sewer connection designed and installed in one turn, this will be cheaper.<br /><br />Talk to someone on Buszycka, people will guide to a proper person who organised sewer and connection works there. I don't want to go with details over the net, you probably know how to find me.<br /><br />Thie whole area has been drained in 20-ties of last century utilising so called "agricultural drainage". These are 80 or 100mm ceramic pipes, laid down approx 140-160cm under ground level. The drainage is old but still works. So watch carefully, if it's continuity is maintained during ground works, when the sewer in Trombity is installed.<br />A few years ago, when rain water sewer was installed in my street, the agri-drainage has been cut and immediately ground water poured to my basement. It took me 2 or 3 weeks of pumping and calling Wydział Ochrony Środowiska in Ursynów to convince them that they have to excavate again and find broken pipes. It was found exactly where I have pointed to dig.<br /><br />When they start excavations, take photos of the trenches, if you find remnants of ceramic piping, call Mr. Poniewierski in Gmina Ursynów Wydział Ochrony Środowiska and he will bring experienced workers who know how to re-connect the architectural drainage.<br /><br />If you don't do it, you may wake up one morning having 20-30 centimeters of rain water on your lawn.<br /><br />And the letter you mention above is quite important, with it's full wording. It gives you an opportunity to find proper clauses of Ustawa and raise your voice when required. Without all these paragraphs, clauses etc. you would have to google for hours to find appropriate Ustawy and Rozporządzenia.<br /><br />BTW - did you know that there os a master plan in proceedings, called "Miejscowy Plan Zagospodarowania Przestrzennego Zachodniego Pasma Pyrskiego w Rejonie Ulicy Sarabandy"? Your house lies within the boundaires. Go to Gmina and find out what urzędnicy and sąsiedzi plan in your sorroundings.<br /><br />Best regards,<br /><br />NeighbourNeighbournoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2650609952674727820.post-86850718452115692492010-10-21T10:02:00.779+02:002010-10-21T10:02:00.779+02:00I would go further than student SGH. When I have m...I would go further than student SGH. When I have made similar points in the past, the Polish people I have spoken to have had no problem understanding it, and hinted that perhaps English educational standards aren't quite up to those in Poland. I was once asked to check the English that a friend had written and suggested that a single paragraph covering four pages, with sentences of up to half a page in length would be difficult to understand. He was quite surprised and could only ask "why?". Taking such an attitude in mind, I just reread your translation and found it made complete sense. On first reading it had been absolute nonsense.Pan Steevahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13253724876708541368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2650609952674727820.post-80745122456873345672010-10-20T11:57:30.728+02:002010-10-20T11:57:30.728+02:00Michael's translation is just fine. Legalese t...Michael's translation is just fine. Legalese to legalese...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2650609952674727820.post-74198957252891270352010-10-20T09:19:10.481+02:002010-10-20T09:19:10.481+02:00Gosh...
The essence of Polish legal twaddle.
I a...Gosh...<br /><br />The essence of Polish legal twaddle.<br /><br />I agree this is not easy to understand (I usually read such writings twice or three times), but English readers might be much more confused given that you translated it word-for-word, in the manner most (poor) translators do. If I hadn't made out Polish words behind the translation I surely wouldn't have understood what that piece of sh*t was about.<br /><br />Pavement along ul. Karczunkowska - finally. I also demand a pavement to the border of Warsaw in Mysiadło...student SGHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01367244307612092688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2650609952674727820.post-42066909602934043562010-10-20T00:27:24.635+02:002010-10-20T00:27:24.635+02:00I wonder if you sent them a polite letter, stating...I wonder if you sent them a polite letter, stating that you can't understand what they have written and if they would kindly explain it in SIMPLE POLISH, would they reply?<br /><br />The Campaign for Simple Polish is long overdue, unfortunately it's most needed by those who think it is isn't necessary.Sigismundonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2650609952674727820.post-1718830876957161872010-10-19T22:55:09.727+02:002010-10-19T22:55:09.727+02:00Jeez! I'm used to legal writing and that still...Jeez! I'm used to legal writing and that still makes my eyes go numb. (In Canada, there's been a movement afoot for some time to make legal documents clearer and easier to understand).<br /><br />But however it's written and assuming it's not electoral sausage, it's good news. Much better than the taxman.<br /><br />:)Pacze Mojhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04455647830303860446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2650609952674727820.post-42042035195359348992010-10-19T21:27:37.742+02:002010-10-19T21:27:37.742+02:00Fantastic. Congratulations on the upcoming plumbin...Fantastic. Congratulations on the upcoming plumbing. How long will it take? I shouldn't ask . . . <br /><br />The link to Gricean maxims is perfect - I have a friend who drives us all crazy with his longwindedness, and I have determined from reading this page that he routinely violates at least 2 of Grice's maxims. Fun stuff. I'd tell him about it but I'd never hear the end of it.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04789107864316340983noreply@blogger.com