Sunday 21 December 2008

Rampa activity

The story so far (thanks to Neighbour and KG for the info!): A notable Jeziorki landmark disappeared this year, to make way for a large housing development on the site. The Spanish developer, Sando Inmobiliaria, will be putting up several hundred houses and flats here. And of course, each one means an extra 1.5 cars competing for already jam-packed road space.

Work has been proceeding on clearing the ground on the Rampa site. Mounds of gravel and earth have appeared; I scrambled up the highest one to take the photo below.

The photo is a two-shot stitched-up panorama (click to enlarge), which clearly shows the extent of development to the south of Jeziorki (observe the horizon). Now this 14 hectare site is being made ready for even more.

Below: the clearest indication that a new road's coming. Running parallel to the east of the old rampa, this road looks like it will be an extention of ul. Borówki. In the distance, left of centre, is the last remaining stump of the former przesypownia. Photo taken looking north towards ul. Karczunkowska.

I spoke to the security guard at the site entrance, who told me that from his information, the first phase of the rampa development would be 50 houses plus a health centre. He couldn't say whether the new road would connect to ul. Borówki or whether it would run down further towards Nowa Iwiczna. Either way, if this road were to be made public, it would bring immediate relief to the residents of Mysiadło and/or Nowa Iwiczna, and hundreds more cars to clog up Karczunkowska each morning.
The question is, given the current economic climate, how soon will work start here. Banks seem loathe to lend money to either developers or to homebuyers.
But then in the long term it must happen. Warsaw is the capital city of a country of 38 million people. It has (officially) 1.8 million registered inhabitants, plus a further 900,000 niezameldowani, living and working here daily. So 2.7 million. Tiny. A capital of a country this size should be 4-5 million people - and so it will be. Maybe not next year, but certainly by the mid-2020s. Warsaw can either grow into a beautiful skyscraper city, or else sprawl outward to engulf Grodzisk Maz, Minsk Maz, Nowy Dwór Maz and Sochaczew. I'd like to see the former.

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

:-(
Quality of living here gets worse every year. I don't sit in my garden during weekend evenings, because traffic on Karczunkowska is so heavy - in fact there's a constant cue of cars from behind the rails up to Puławska - moving like snails.

I more often seriously consider moving out. If I move to the city center, maybe I miss pheasants behind my fence (sadly, the last one I saw was more than a year ago :-( ), but at least I won't have to ride 30-40 minutes to get to nearest cinema or theatre or a restaurant.

Yesterday I saw a Great Spotted Woodpecker in my garden, probably an argument to stay here...

Michael Dembinski said...

That's sad. What Warsaw's outer suburbs lack is cinemas and restaurants - the planners need to provide for this. There are alternatives; choice parts of Jeziorki away from the traffic (outside of morning rush hours). I'd plump for ul. Dumki and far end of Trombity were I to be looking at Jeziorki again. Got any Great Spotted Woodpecker snaps?

Unknown said...

"He couldn't say whether the new road would connect to ul. Borówki or whether it would run down further towards Nowa Iwiczna. Either way, if this road were to be made public,"

What does the project/zoning plan at the city hall show?

Michael Dembinski said...

As fas as I can see, there's nothing on either Lesznowola's or Warsaw's websites regarding this road. If anyone can furnish any details, I'd be grateful.

Anonymous said...

God forbid they publish anything - that would be a horrid departure from past activity.

We are trying to figure out some 'zoning' changes in our neck of the woods Chylice - they run an ad entitled: w sprawie przystapienia do sporzadzenia miejscowego planu blah blah and basically make you jump through the hoops to find out what the proposals are - it is maddening. They could 'good idea' post it on the city's web site - may be too modern a thought for the folks at city hall. So we now will need to drive over, find the correct room, hope someone is there, hope that someone can find the document's, hope that the documents can be understood (as they say itd) - it is always an interesting experience to do this (sometimes maddening but other times quite nice) If you like surprises - give it a try.

Will report on what we find (for Chylice) in January

Anonymous said...

Anonymous, I believe this is not exactly true - Gmina is obliged to publish on an official web page all proceedings (uchwały) re. master plan, as well as all change proposals.

I find this a perfect exercise for everyone to become a true member of local community - to find out what's going on around, to raise one's voice and influence changes.

All the best,

Anonymous said...

Neighbor - I would think the same, the web is a no-brainer medium to use as but one of the options. The neighbors I have (and my wife, who incidentally is Polish) all have the 'who cares' attitude - that apathy is one of the reasons that things are not done well or planned in Poland, time after time